Today's Discussion: Two quotes

[onyxhawke]

I am considering some of the things from the last post, unfortunately time and functional gray matter are scant.

So noting the lack of wit of my own, today's offering for your discussion:

"The penalty for success is to be bored by the people who used to snub you." Nancy Astor


and

"In real life, unlike in Shakespeare, the sweetness of the rose depends upon the name it bears. Things are not only what they are. They are, in very important respects, what they seem to be." Hubert H. Humphrey

So how, if at all do these quotes apply to the real world and to writing?

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Comments

[sartorias.livejournal.com]

The first one I have no idea what success is like. Would those who snub me bore me if I were suddenly to leap to the A list? Probably not.

The second one makes no sense whatever, even after three reads.

[onyxhawke.livejournal.com]

Fixed, the second one.

[onyxhawke.livejournal.com]

the second one is in short: Everyone percieves things differently and you are dealing with that perception, "reality" is the area where multiple perceptions intersect (or appear to). Also everyone brings their _baggage_ to something which will further alter their perceptions, the more baggage, the more skewed the perception.

For example someone who's been married six times and has had disastrous marriages each time than someone who has been married mostly happily to the same person for 45 years, and the person who is still in the honeymoon stage of their first marriage.

Each of the three has a valid, real view of marriage, that is different from the others and informed by their experience. Hence marriage will _appear_ to be different to each of them.

[sartorias.livejournal.com]

Ah. I agree with that, but the way it was worded tied my pea-brain into knots.

[brownkitty.livejournal.com]

The second one reminds me of the snide remark that Stephen King could have his laundry list published and it would become a NY Times bestseller.

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[matapam.livejournal.com]

"The penalty for success is to be bored by the people who used to snub you." Nancy Astor


A lot of us started out enthusiastically telling people about our neat ideas, and they weren't interested. But after you get so deep in, you don't need the exterior validation from people who speak ignorantly about the writing craft and publishing industry.

Also, in writing, we start creating new ideas and living in them to a considerable extent. We view Real People differently, especially when we're in the middle of a writing spree. They are annoyances, as well as boring. It's a wonder a married writer exists anywhere on the planet.



"In real life, unlike in Shakespeare, the sweetness of the rose depends upon the name it bears. Things are not only what they are. They are, in very important respects, what they seem to be." Hubert H. Humphrey


This relates not so much to writing as the marketing end of the whole process. And the perceptions of the readers.

Or maybe it does. How much do titles matter? Would "Orcs in Spaaaaaace!" have sold better than "East of the Sun, West of the Moon"?

Okay, Nyx M'kabon, I'll go think about my titles some more.